I noticed that this morning. I was trying to determine if I could use this as an example of the double standard of the society. If we point out an appointed mans faults we are talking against god but if the appointed man is not living up to the societies standards he was appointed by imperfect men who were guided by the bibles standards. What a bunch of crap.
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Today's watchtower admits they appoint people who are sinners
by hoser infrom paragraph 12. one brother began viewing pornography at the age of 12, and he continued to do so in secret for over a decade.
he relates: it was very hard to admit to my wife and to the el- ders what id been doing.
but now that i have admitted it, i feel that a huge weight has been taken off my shoulders.
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Window Peepers
by piztjw inso today one of the local elders came around to "check out how you are doing.".
i didn't really feel like putting up with the interrogation, or the false concern so i decided that i didn't "hear" the doorbell.
the guy decided he needed to circle my home and peek in the windows to see if i was home or not.
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Elders only have the power that you give them. Next time they come by and look in your windows just wave and roll over going back to your nap. What can they do? They are the ones overstepping their bounds. If they ask you about it. Tell them it's your house and if they didn't want their "feelings hurt" by knowing they were being ignored stop looking in other peoples windows.
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roday at a 2-day assembly
by raxxxx ini shall let you all know what happens, what kind of nee light is going to shine here today!
wish me good luck!.
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At ours in the final talk the special speaker told us to 'forget about science. Science is wrong and pointless. The bible and what is recorded in it are what's important'.
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Can an inactive one be DFed?
by Eustace inon another thread somebody wrote:.
i was df'd about a month ago and when it happened, i cried.
i'm not sure why, i certainly don't believe one crumb of what they teach anymore, and i had been inactive for two years.. .
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My copy of Shepherd the Flock of God will not allow me to copy so I am typing what it says. Please forgive me for any typos.
Those Who Have Not Associated For Many Years
40. In deciding whether to form a judicial committee or not, the body of elders should consider the following:
* Does he still profess to be a Witness?
* Is He generally recognized as a Witness in the congregation or the community?
* Does his conduct continue to affect any other person, such as in some cases of adultery or child abuse?
* Does the person have a measure of contact or association with the congregation so that a leavening or corruption influence exists?
* is the person willing to meet with a committee , thus admitting accountability to the Christian congregation?
41. Depending upon length of inactivity and other factors suggested above, elders may determine to hold the matter in abeyance. In such a case
They would make a record of the person's questionable conduct for the congregation file. When the individual again shows interest in
returning to the congregation, they can clarify these matters.
So basically if you have friends or relatives for example an ex wife who want to make issues of things it might prompt the elders to pursue you even if you have faded. On the other hand I have seen many who just go about their lives after leaving and they are not bothered by the elder body even if after a number of years are openly observing holidays and birthdays, voting or even holding elected office.
I did find this point of special interest ' is the person willing to meet with a committee , thus admitting accountability to the Christian congregation?' so perhaps if you are inactive and have had no contact with the congregation for a long period of time refusing to meet with any elders is the best call.
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The New Diary of Winston Smith
by WinstonSmith inwe had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.
fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.
i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.
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Just read your post and I have to say I am amazed at how closely our stories resemble each other. I too was once an elder saw the garbage that went on and eventually stepped down. When I was assigned the #3 talk on earthquakes i figured that the reasoning book was so outdated that if I did a little research i could give a better talk. My research ended with JWFacts. While I never really accepted the whole religion and God concept, I saw no harm in the Witnesses. I was surprised at how much they twist and lie. I look forward to hearing more of your experiences.
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Misquotes by the Watchtower
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i know that the watchtower is notorious for misquoting authorities in an effort to disprove evolution and give support to their version of creation.
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Thanks guys. Thats a new place for me to start looking.
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i know that the watchtower is notorious for misquoting authorities in an effort to disprove evolution and give support to their version of creation.
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I know that the Watchtower is notorious for misquoting authorities in an effort to disprove evolution and give support to their version of creation. While researching the subject on this board there were several mentions of a law suit being brought against them by one of those sources but no one ever provided any specifics. Do any of you know if that really happened and if so do you have any details about the case?
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Any suggestions for a 'quick' tour of Yellowstone National Park??
by AudeSapere in.
i know the park is huge and i won't have much time there, but in a couple of weeks i will have a day or a day and a half to explore this part of the country.. i will be busy at big sky resort for a few days and leaving from bozeman on tuesday.
that leaves all day monday and possibly part of sunday to explore.. does anyone have any suggestions for maximizing my free time in yellowstone?
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We go at least twice a year and while the southern parts of the park have some very interesting thermal areas, paint pots, hot springs and geysers, if you want fewer people, incredible landscape and abundant wildlife, the northern part is where to go. Coming from Montana puts you right there as well. If you have a day and a half you would also have time to make it to Old Faithful if you have never been there.
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The Anonymous hacker group has announced that they will begin infiltrating the WTS to obtain their database of pedophiles.
by Elsewhere inthe anonymous hacker group has proven themselves effective in the past.
lets wait and see if they pull it off again with the wts.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyl4waps2o.
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The WTBS is very paranoid. For years they would not let us use cordless phones to discuss elder or judicial matters for fear of someone else overhearing, then they prohibited cell phones for the same issues. It took years to allow anything, even something as simple as a book study list or the TMS schedule to be created or stored on a computer. Cordless microphones, fax machines, office copy machines, e mails all were equally vilified. Today they have come a long way in using modern technology but it would shock me if they have anything incriminating on file electronically and I am sure the ‘special little list’ that they keep is only on paper and always under lock and key.
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20 new ASL congregations every year
by Joker10 inthere are some 18,000 american publishers who belong to congregations in american sign language.
the number tripled in just 6 years.. .
it is difficult to know how many people us asl to communicate, but the estimates are between 500,000- 2.5 million.
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I had to laugh when I saw this thread. In one of our neighboring congregations they have an ASL group that meets for a public talk once or twice a month and then they do the TMS and Book study, I mean Bible study from a WTS book, every week. The group is made up of about thirty witnesses all Pioneers, Elders and MS. They are almost all between the ages of 19 and 35. They are married with no children or they are single, and they are all the “Cool” Witnesses. You know the kind that have nice things, dress nice and can do no wrong and have no personalities. If an “uncool” pioneer or MS wants to join their group they are told that they are not taking anyone new right now.
Anyway the funny part is that not a one of these people are actually deaf. They spend their time going to meetings and in service using ASL when every single person in the group can hear. What a colossal waste of time.